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Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

Rik-4
11/17/16

I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
candidate (rc4) is made?

--Rik

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Re: Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

John Swensen-3

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Rik <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> 11/17/16
>
> I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
> anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
> candidate (rc4) is made?
>
> --Rik
>

Definitely not something that will get fixed in the near future, but Octave 4.2 has been really bad on OSX (Homebrew built). Octave 4.0.3 is quite usable, so it isn’t a show stopper but would recommend that 4.2 not be considered a “stable release” for OSX. I think most of the the OSX problems already have bug reports, but here are the ones that are the most problematic:
1) Doesn’t handle Apple retina displays well. I’m not quite sure why this wasn’t an issue with 4.03, but is with 4.2.
2) I get the GUI hanging about 50% of the time I try and plot things. It happens less when I take the plotting commands out of the script/function and execute them from the command line.
3) The GUI hangs almost every single time when trying to close Octave. I can reduce the likelihood of this happening if I execute a “clear all; close all;” before trying to exit, but it isn’t 100%.

I have been trying to get a Homebrew version with debug symbols built so I can start looking at (2) and (3), and submitted a first step patch for (1), but these three alone make 4.2 virtually unusable on OSX.

John S.
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Re: Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

Sebastian Schöps
John Swensen-3 wrote
> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Rik <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> 11/17/16
>
> I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
> anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
> candidate (rc4) is made?
>
> --Rik
>

Definitely not something that will get fixed in the near future, but Octave 4.2 has been really bad on OSX (Homebrew built). Octave 4.0.3 is quite usable, so it isn’t a show stopper but would recommend that 4.2 not be considered a “stable release” for OSX.
Well the gui can be easily disabled, so we could declare only the cli as "stable" for Mac. Generally, I think many issues are rather due to qt5 vs. qt4. Not sure how qt5 performs on other platforms.

Sebastian
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Re: Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

John Swensen-3

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Sebastian Schöps <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> John Swensen-3 wrote
>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Rik &lt;
>
>> rik@
>
>> &gt; wrote:
>>>
>>> 11/17/16
>>>
>>> I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
>>> anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
>>> candidate (rc4) is made?
>>>
>>> --Rik
>>>
>>
>> Definitely not something that will get fixed in the near future, but
>> Octave 4.2 has been really bad on OSX (Homebrew built). Octave 4.0.3 is
>> quite usable, so it isn’t a show stopper but would recommend that 4.2 not
>> be considered a “stable release” for OSX.
>
> Well the gui can be easily disabled, so we could declare only the cli as
> "stable" for Mac. Generally, I think many issues are rather due to qt5 vs.
> qt4. Not sure how qt5 performs on other platforms.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
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I should amend my previous statement to clarify based on Sebastian’s comment. It is, in fact, the GUI that is unusable. I don’t get any of the hanging/crashing problem when running with the —no-gui option. All of the QT5 plotting works without hiccups (with the exception of the scaling problems) on OSX when running from the command line and plotting with the QT5 OpenGL backend. My basic workflow until we can solve the GUI issues (hopefully I can help) is Aquamacs as editor and ‘octave —no-gui’.

John S.
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Re: Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

Marius Schamschula-5
So in other words the GUI is being "marked as experimental" again?

I’ve been using the GUI under octave 4.0.3, and rather would not want to go back to dedicating a cli terminal to octave and have to constantly switch back and forth for editing with BBEdit or TextWrangler.

Marius
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Marius Schamschula



On Nov 7, 2016, at 2:51 PM, John Swensen <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Sebastian Schöps <[hidden email]> wrote:

John Swensen-3 wrote
On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Rik &lt;

rik@

&gt; wrote:

11/17/16

I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
candidate (rc4) is made?

--Rik


Definitely not something that will get fixed in the near future, but
Octave 4.2 has been really bad on OSX (Homebrew built). Octave 4.0.3 is
quite usable, so it isn’t a show stopper but would recommend that 4.2 not
be considered a “stable release” for OSX.

Well the gui can be easily disabled, so we could declare only the cli as
"stable" for Mac. Generally, I think many issues are rather due to qt5 vs.
qt4. Not sure how qt5 performs on other platforms.

Sebastian



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I should amend my previous statement to clarify based on Sebastian’s comment. It is, in fact, the GUI that is unusable. I don’t get any of the hanging/crashing problem when running with the —no-gui option. All of the QT5 plotting works without hiccups (with the exception of the scaling problems) on OSX when running from the command line and plotting with the QT5 OpenGL backend. My basic workflow until we can solve the GUI issues (hopefully I can help) is Aquamacs as editor and ‘octave —no-gui’.

John S.

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Re: Any outstanding bugs before rc4?

Daniel Sebald
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On 11/07/2016 11:19 AM, Rik wrote:
> 11/17/16
>
> I checked in changes to fix bug #49509 and #49501 this morning.  Does
> anyone know of anything else that must be fixed before the next release
> candidate (rc4) is made?
>
> --Rik

I've come across a build error when the --without-opengl option is used:

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?49561

Dan