Hacked gnuplot/win32 binaries NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE

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Hacked gnuplot/win32 binaries NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE

Mumit Khan-3
In compliance with gnuplot's copyright (no right to distribute modified
binaries, blah blah blah), I've removed the binaries from my web page.
If you feel this is annoying as hell, do send a message to the gnuplot
team at <[hidden email]>.

Re-reading the copyright statement, it seems that distributing even source
patch is NOT ok.

Now that I know that the "gnu" in "gnuplot" was just accidental, and
not what it seems (I know that everybody else knew this, but I've never
had to use gnuplot since I have access to other packages, so never knew),
I'm a bit concerned about octave's dependence on gnuplot for graphics.

Mumit


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Hacked gnuplot/win32 binaries NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE

John W. Eaton-6
On 10-Jul-1997, Mumit Khan <[hidden email]> wrote:

| Re-reading the copyright statement, it seems that distributing even source
| patch is NOT ok.

| Now that I know that the "gnu" in "gnuplot" was just accidental, and
| not what it seems (I know that everybody else knew this, but I've never
| had to use gnuplot since I have access to other packages, so never knew),
| I'm a bit concerned about octave's dependence on gnuplot for graphics.

I believe it is ok to distribute a patch but not a complete modified
distribution.  The Copyright file that is distributed with gnuplot
says:

 * Copyright (C) 1986 - 1993   Thomas Williams, Colin Kelley
 *
 * Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software and its
 * documentation for any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted,
 * provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and
 * that both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear
 * in supporting documentation.
 *
 * Permission to modify the software is granted, but not the right to
 * distribute the modified code.  Modifications are to be distributed
 * as patches to released version.
 *
 * This software is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty.

Having to distribute patches is somewhat inconvenient.  I would
definitely prefer to see gnuplot distributed under less restrictive
terms.  I originally decided to use gnuplot because it was reasonably
easy to adapt it for my purposes and I was already using it for other
things.  Now I think there are probably better alternatives, but it is
a lot of work to switch.

My long term plans are still to create a relatively generic interface
to plotting that Octave will use internally and that will make it
easier for people to adapt whatever plotting package they prefer.
Unfortunately, it may be a while before that actually happens.

jwe


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Re: Hacked gnuplot/win32 binaries NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE

Fletcher, John P
In reply to this post by Mumit Khan-3
> Date:          Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:14:12 -0500
> From:          "John W. Eaton" <[hidden email]>
> To:            Mumit Khan <[hidden email]>
> Cc:            [hidden email]
> Subject:       Hacked gnuplot/win32 binaries NOT AVAILABLE ANY MORE

> On 10-Jul-1997, Mumit Khan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> | Re-reading the copyright statement, it seems that distributing even source
> | patch is NOT ok.
>
> | Now that I know that the "gnu" in "gnuplot" was just accidental, and
> | not what it seems (I know that everybody else knew this, but I've never
> | had to use gnuplot since I have access to other packages, so never knew),
> | I'm a bit concerned about octave's dependence on gnuplot for graphics.
>
> I believe it is ok to distribute a patch but not a complete modified
> distribution.  The Copyright file that is distributed with gnuplot
> says:
>
Some years ago I contributed a BINARY version of gnuplot for a
particular situation (PC DOS 32 bit).  I did this by contributing it
to the gnuplot coordinator and it then propagated to the gnuplot
sites, where it still is.  (DOS34.ZIP)  

Contributed binaries of the current versions (3.6 beta) are made
available in a site in Southampton, U.K. (Details from the gnuplot
FAQ.)

This may be a way in which these binaries could be made available.

I hope this is helpful.

John Fletcher
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