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default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

nrjank
wanted to try out the unofficial MXE build on my Win7 PC. I prefer the portable / unzipping approach, so I downloaded octave-3.8.1-1-portable.zip.  While unzipping to C:/Octave, I got an Access Denied pop up. It thought it needed admin to copy

C:\Octave\octave-3.8.1\share\nsis\Contrib\UIs\default.exe

enabling Admin, it then gave a general Access Denied error. Nothing I tried would let it pull the default.exe file out of the archive. I downloaded the .7z version, and got the same problem. 7za wouldn't extract the default.exe file. (all else was fine). 

Just for kicks I created an empty text file there, renamed it to default.exe.  PC was then fighting any attempt I made to modify and delete that file.  Admin delete killed it, but windows even threw an access denied error that time.

My only guess is its setting off some aspect of system security. default.exe is a very common virus/trojan name. can only assume my pc is protecting me from myself (running McAffee VS Enterprise. turning it off would involve diving into group policy stuff I'm not in the mood to do at the moment.

so for the time being, what won't work without that file?

nick J.

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

Juan Pablo Carbajal-2
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
> my pc is protecting me from myself

Sounds like it is time to change the OS.

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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>>  my pc is protecting me from myself
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> Sounds like it is time to change the OS.
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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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----- Original Message -----

> From: Juan Pablo Carbajal <[hidden email]>
> To: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
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> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
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>>  my pc is protecting me from myself
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> Sounds like it is time to change the OS.
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At least ny running Linux in a VM.

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

Markus Bergholz
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just for kicks I created an empty text file there, renamed it to default.exe.  PC was then fighting any attempt I made to modify and delete that file.  Admin delete killed it, but windows even threw an access denied error that time.
 
(running McAffee VS Enterprise. 

I hope you've spent tons of money for McAfee to perform a name-based virus detection.

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

nrjank
oh... we all have :)

I must say, this is actually one of the more entertaining things (in a sad, pathetic sort of way) I've run into with Windows in quite some time.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Markus Bergholz <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just for kicks I created an empty text file there, renamed it to default.exe.  PC was then fighting any attempt I made to modify and delete that file.  Admin delete killed it, but windows even threw an access denied error that time.
 
(running McAffee VS Enterprise. 

I hope you've spent tons of money for McAfee to perform a name-based virus detection.


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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

nrjank
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
oh... we all have :)

I must say, this is actually one of the more entertaining things (in a sad, pathetic sort of way) I've run into with Windows in quite some time.


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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just for kicks I created an empty text file there, renamed it to default.exe.  PC was then fighting any attempt I made to modify and delete that file.  Admin delete killed it, but windows even threw an access denied error that time.
 
(running McAffee VS Enterprise. 

I hope you've spent tons of money for McAfee to perform a name-based virus detection.


just to add to the offtopic pile of 'windows is stupid'...

I can create a text file. I can rename it, delete it, whatever. if i rename it from .txt to .exe, suddenly there's an access control problem. can't delete it with the user or admin account. (deleting it from user account gives a UAC prompt to escalate to admin.  deleting it from admin gives a prompt saying i need permission from the user...)

but... if I open a command prompt, I can delete it from either user or admin, no issues.  quite entertaining. what that doesn't do, however, is let me pull the default.exe file out of either zip and put it in the right place. i tried just pulling the file out with 7za and got the permission error. assume the same would happen with command line on the zip file.

last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"?

it shouldn't be this hard...

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 

Use double-quotes.

Michael.


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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 

Use double-quotes.

nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 

Use double-quotes.

nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?

nope, works fine here.
I love this thread! :)

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

Sergei Steshenko
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>________________________________
> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>To: Markus Bergholz <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:35 PM
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>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"?
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Try in double quotes, i.e.

"default.exe"
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Regards,
  Sergei.


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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

Sergei Steshenko
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>________________________________
> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>To: Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:49 PM
>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 
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>>Use double-quotes.
>>nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?
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Then try in Yandex: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22default.exe%22&site=®ion_name=&rstr=&zone=all&wordforms=all&lang=en&within=0&from_date_full=&to_date_full=02.04.2014&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=2&to_month=4&to_year=2014&numdoc=10&lr=101512 .

The query will display results in English.

Regards,
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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Markus Bergholz <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 

Use double-quotes.

nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?

nope, works fine here.
I love this thread! :)

happy to entertain

includes the following:
default.exe
default exe
default .exe
default: exe
...

even in quotes Google will do it's 'helpful substitutions'

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]> wrote:







>________________________________
> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>To: Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:49 PM
>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 
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>>Use double-quotes.
>>nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?
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Then try in Yandex: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22default.exe%22&site=®ion_name=&rstr=&zone=all&wordforms=all&lang=en&within=0&from_date_full=&to_date_full=02.04.2014&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=2&to_month=4&to_year=2014&numdoc=10&lr=101512 .

The query will display results in English.


or ddg

 


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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

nrjank
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Markus Bergholz <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]> wrote:







>________________________________
> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>To: Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:49 PM
>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 
>>>
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>>Use double-quotes.
>>nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?
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Then try in Yandex: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22default.exe%22&site=®ion_name=&rstr=&zone=all&wordforms=all&lang=en&within=0&from_date_full=&to_date_full=02.04.2014&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=2&to_month=4&to_year=2014&numdoc=10&lr=101512 .

The query will display results in English.


or ddg

 
That appears to be the best one. Yandex was better than google, but still didn't limit itself to "default.exe"

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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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>________________________________
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>To: Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>; Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>; Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:58 PM
>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>>>To: Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>
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>>>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:49 PM
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>>>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>>>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 
>>>>>
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>>>>Use double-quotes.
>>>>nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?
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>>Then try in Yandex: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22default.exe%22&site=®ion_name=&rstr=&zone=all&wordforms=all&lang=en&within=0&from_date_full=&to_date_full=02.04.2014&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=2&to_month=4&to_year=2014&numdoc=10&lr=101512 .
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>or ddg
>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22default.exe%22
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AFAIR, decent search engines have advanced search menu, and typically there is a possibility to demand exact text match.

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Yes, I myself use duckduckgo a lot, and sometimes Yahoo search too - lately the Yahoo search behaves IMO more decently.


Regards,
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Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]> wrote:







>________________________________
> From: Markus Bergholz <[hidden email]>
>To: Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]>
>Cc: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>; Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>; Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:58 PM
>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> From: Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]>
>>>To: Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]>
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>>>Cc: Octave users list <[hidden email]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:49 PM
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>>>Subject: Re: default.exe... my computer doesn't like it :)
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>>>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Michael Goffioul <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Jankowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>>last - does anyone know how to google search for "default.exe" without getting results for "default exe"? 
>>>>>
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>>>>Use double-quotes.
>>>>nope. Google killed the usefulness of that a while ago. did you try it?
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>>Then try in Yandex: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22default.exe%22&site=®ion_name=&rstr=&zone=all&wordforms=all&lang=en&within=0&from_date_full=&to_date_full=02.04.2014&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=2&to_month=4&to_year=2014&numdoc=10&lr=101512 .
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>>The query will display results in English.
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>or ddg
>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22default.exe%22
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AFAIR, decent search engines have advanced search menu, and typically there is a possibility to demand exact text match.

...

Yes, I myself use duckduckgo a lot, and sometimes Yahoo search too - lately the Yahoo search behaves IMO more decently.


recalling the good ol' days when we'd argue about the supremacy of Altavista or Infoseek...

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