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description text of Octave Forge at Sourceforge

Olaf Till-2
Hi,

as you know the web pages of Octave Forge are at:

https://octave.sourceforge.io/

But sourceforge also maintains descriptions of the hosted projects,
which for Octave Forge is at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/octave/

The latter description contains a paragraph about core Octave, too. I
think this is not good. The control of what is stated about core
Octave should be at the Octave website. It should not happen that,
although the introductory text at the Octave website is carefully
chosen, some people get a possibly slightly different introduction to
Octave from the sourceforge website.

I'd remove the respective paragraph, if their are no objections.

The links in this description seem to be automatically generated, so
there is only a link to our Octave Forge website. But this is ok. The
latter website contains a link to core Octave, of course.

Olaf

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Re: description text of Octave Forge at Sourceforge

Mike Miller-4
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 09:33:10 +0200, Olaf Till wrote:

> Hi,
>
> as you know the web pages of Octave Forge are at:
>
> https://octave.sourceforge.io/
>
> But sourceforge also maintains descriptions of the hosted projects,
> which for Octave Forge is at:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/octave/
>
> The latter description contains a paragraph about core Octave, too. I
> think this is not good. The control of what is stated about core
> Octave should be at the Octave website. It should not happen that,
> although the introductory text at the Octave website is carefully
> chosen, some people get a possibly slightly different introduction to
> Octave from the sourceforge website.
>
> I'd remove the respective paragraph, if their are no objections.
>
> The links in this description seem to be automatically generated, so
> there is only a link to our Octave Forge website. But this is ok. The
> latter website contains a link to core Octave, of course.

I actually don't think that paragraph is misleading. I think it's
helpful to define what GNU Octave is for users who may be arriving at
the Octave-Forge project for the first time.

If you remove that paragraph entirely, a new user only sees that
Octave-Forge provides some domain-specific packages for something called
Octave, but if they don't already use Octave, that doesn't tell them
much of anything.

It's true that the preferred description of Octave hosted at the main
Octave web site should be considered canonical, and the paragraph on the
Octave-Forge main page could be updated to match that.

A small standalone paragraph could be added to the end, if you are
allowed more characters, that says something like

    Octave is an official GNU project, refer to www.octave.org for more
    information.

Even if you are not allowed to create your own hyperlinks, having plain
text pointing to the Octave web site would be helpful there.

While you're updating things, can you update the link at

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/octave/support

to use the new "https://octave.sourceforge.io" schema?

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Re: description text of Octave Forge at Sourceforge

Olaf Till-2
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:44:18PM -0700, Mike Miller wrote:

> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 09:33:10 +0200, Olaf Till wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > as you know the web pages of Octave Forge are at:
> >
> > https://octave.sourceforge.io/
> >
> > But sourceforge also maintains descriptions of the hosted projects,
> > which for Octave Forge is at:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/octave/
> >
> > The latter description contains a paragraph about core Octave, too. I
> > think this is not good. The control of what is stated about core
> > Octave should be at the Octave website. It should not happen that,
> > although the introductory text at the Octave website is carefully
> > chosen, some people get a possibly slightly different introduction to
> > Octave from the sourceforge website.
> >
> > I'd remove the respective paragraph, if their are no objections.
> >
> > The links in this description seem to be automatically generated, so
> > there is only a link to our Octave Forge website. But this is ok. The
> > latter website contains a link to core Octave, of course.
>
> I actually don't think that paragraph is misleading. I think it's
> helpful to define what GNU Octave is for users who may be arriving at
> the Octave-Forge project for the first time.
>
> If you remove that paragraph entirely, a new user only sees that
> Octave-Forge provides some domain-specific packages for something called
> Octave, but if they don't already use Octave, that doesn't tell them
> much of anything.
>
> It's true that the preferred description of Octave hosted at the main
> Octave web site should be considered canonical, and the paragraph on the
> Octave-Forge main page could be updated to match that.
>
> A small standalone paragraph could be added to the end, if you are
> allowed more characters, that says something like
>
>     Octave is an official GNU project, refer to www.octave.org for more
>     information.
>
> Even if you are not allowed to create your own hyperlinks, having plain
> text pointing to the Octave web site would be helpful there.
I've left the paragraph as it is, and added the reference to Octaves
website at the end. It has been automatically converted to a link by
the system.

> While you're updating things, can you update the link at
>
>     https://sourceforge.net/projects/octave/support
>
> to use the new "https://octave.sourceforge.io" schema?

Done, thanks.

Olaf

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