On 6/9/20 12:11 AM, I wrote:

> Separately, I see that other than the Range::matrix_value method, we set

> the cache value in the operators, like this:

>

> Range operator + (const Range& r, double x)

> {

> Range result (r.base () + x, r.limit () + x, r.inc (), r.numel ());

> if (result.m_numel < 0)

> result.m_cache = r.matrix_value () + x;

>

> return result;

> }

>

> As I recall, setting the cache in these functions (and not just the

> matrix_value method) is done so that, for example, adding a constant to

> a range and then converting to a matrix will produce exactly the same

> result as converting a range to a matrix and then adding a constant to

> the matrix (in psuedo code):

>

> matrix (r) + c == matrix (r + c)

>

> Using the cache this way does avoid the cost of any repeated conversions

> to a matrix value, but it also forces the cache to be created for any

> operation on a range, not just the result. So it largely defeats the

> purpose of the efficient range object storage, and I'm wondering whether

> it is worth having a special range data type at all? What do we really

> gain for the additional complexity?

I see now that there are limited cases where result.m_numel will be

negative, so the cache is not updated for every operation. However, the

problems with the mutable cache remain, as do the issues with operations

on ranges not being identical to the operations on the equivalent

matrices. Here is a simple example:

r0 = 1:0.1:10;

r1 = r0 + 2.3; # range + scalar

r2 = [r0] + 2.3; # matrix + scalar

all (r1 == r2) # returns false for me

d = r1 - r2; # show elements with differences

idx = find (d)

d(idx)

I understand the arguments about Octave being a numerical tool and not

expecting exact results for floating point operations, but I'm still

wondering whether the complexity of these range operations is justified.

If we do want to support operations that avoid immediate conversion to

Matrix data, maybe we should only do so when we can guarantee that

matrix (r) OP val == matrix (r OP val)

is true? We should be able to do this when VAL and all elements of R

are integers and will remain so after the operation. Other cases might

be possible as well, but harder to detect. And maybe the cache should

be eliminated and this test handled in the octave_value class hierarchy?

jwe